Bryan Popejoy: Muay Thai Mentors, Self Belief, Structure, & Adaptability – SoBC Podcast EP 12

Bryan Popejoy has found himself at the forefront of American Muay Thai since the 1980’s, literally involved from Illinois in the East, through Arizona, to California in the West.

His experience both as a Muay Thai fighter himself (in the early “Wild West” period of American Muay Thai), and as a coach to some of the best fighters in the US, provides a valuable insight into what it takes to succeed in Muay Thai on the world stage.

In this episode…

Bryan Popejoy, coach and owner of Boxing Works Gym in California, a former IFMA Gold medallist Thai boxer himself, and the first US coach to have a fighter win a One Championship title, with Janet Todd. And not to mention a Muay Thai Golden Era aficionado!

Don Heatrick · Muay Thai Performance Coachby Don Heatrick
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You can follow Byan on Instagram @bryanpopejoy https://www.instagram.com/bryanpopejoy/, and follow the Boxing Works Gym @boxingworks https://www.instagram.com/boxingworks/

And check out the Boxing Works website https://www.boxingworksofficial.com/

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Episode Summary

Bryan Popejoy’s Early Inspirations and Beginnings in Muay Thai

Bryan Popejoy’s journey into Muay Thai began in the mid-1980s, after a pivotal experience with bullying led him to martial arts for self-defense. Starting with Taekwondo, Popejoy’s passion grew, leading him to discover Muay Thai through a local flyer advertising kickboxing. His early training included a blend of Muay Thai and other martial arts, but he quickly fell in love with the sport’s unique demands and techniques. This initial fascination laid the groundwork for his future achievements in Muay Thai.

From Self-Defense to Competition: A Growing Passion

The transition from self-defense to competitive Muay Thai marked a significant shift for Bryan Popejoy. Initially, Popejoy saw competition as a way to test his skills and apply his training in a practical setting. What started as a one-time challenge turned into a lifelong commitment. Popejoy’s competitive journey evolved as he faced seasoned opponents, learning valuable lessons about the sport’s intricacies and the true meaning of fighting under pressure.

The Move to California and Establishing Boxing Works

Bryan Popejoy’s move from Illinois to California was driven by his desire to immerse himself deeper into Muay Thai. This transition was not just geographical but also professional. Popejoy acquired an existing gym, Boxing Works, which he turned into a hub for Muay Thai training. Despite its name, the gym focuses heavily on Muay Thai, reflecting Popejoy’s dedication to the sport. His coaching career flourished alongside his fighting, and Boxing Works became a well-known establishment in the Muay Thai community.

Adapting Coaching Methods and Training Philosophy

Popejoy’s approach to coaching has evolved significantly over time. Initially adhering to a more traditional, intense training regime, he now emphasizes a balance between structured training and individual needs. His philosophy includes integrating modern techniques with Muay Thai fundamentals, adapting to the unique requirements of each fighter. Popejoy’s evolution as a coach reflects a broader trend in the sport, where traditional methods are combined with contemporary insights for better performance outcomes.

Embracing Flow State and Psychological Aspects of Fighting

One of the intriguing aspects of Bryan Popejoy’s insight into Muay Thai is his exploration of the psychological dimensions of fighting. And here Don discusses the concept of “flow state,” where fighters experience heightened awareness and performance under stress.Don explains how this state involves pushing beyond one’s capabilities, achieving a near-mystical focus that enhances performance. This understanding of psychological resilience adds a valuable layer to his coaching and fighting strategy.

Balancing Coaching and Personal Training Demands

Managing the demands of coaching, fighting, and running a gym presents a significant challenge. Popejoy reflects on the balancing act required to excel in multiple roles. He highlights the importance of maintaining personal training while ensuring that his athletes receive the attention and guidance they need. This balance is crucial for sustaining long-term success and personal well-being in a high-stress environment.

The Importance of Teamwork and Self-Belief

Throughout the interview, Popejoy emphasizes the value of teamwork and self-belief. He notes that effective coaching and fighting both require a strong sense of self and the ability to collaborate with others. Popejoy’s experience underlines the significance of having a dedicated team and a resilient mindset, which are essential for achieving success in Muay Thai.

Reflections on the Golden Era and Ongoing Learning

Bryan Popejoy’s deep respect for the Golden Era of Muay Thai influences his current practice. He reflects on how his understanding of past fights has evolved over time. Revisiting old footage with a new perspective has enriched his appreciation for the sport’s history and technical nuances. Popejoy’s ongoing learning and adaptation demonstrate his commitment to continuous improvement and respect for Muay Thai’s rich legacy.

In conclusion, Bryan Popejoy’s journey through Muay Thai—from a young enthusiast to a respected coach and fighter—illustrates the power of passion, adaptability, and continuous learning. For those in the Muay Thai community, whether fighters, coaches, or fans, Popejoy’s insights offer valuable lessons on the importance of embracing both tradition and innovation in the sport. So, take a page from Bryan Popejoy’s book: stay curious, stay adaptable, and never stop learning.

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During this informative episode, these are the points you shouldn’t miss…

0:00 – Intro and how Bryan Popejoy got into Muay Thai, from punk rocker to the skinny fighter from the magazines.

6:52 – Does this work? Post High School chapter – from self defense to competition

9:11 – Muay Thai from Illinois, through Arizona, to California

11:14 – Boxing Works Gym… Ending up with a gym, well before he deserved to?! 

12:01 – Stable of fighters: Janet Todd (ONE Championship), Jackie Buntan (ONE Championship) and Nathan Ward (Glory Kickboxing).

13:37 – Intrigue… Hard training and strange cultural aspects!

17:26 – Appreciation for the people in Muay Thai 

19:38 – Going in, all or nothing as a coach to those Bryan loves.

22:58 – Using fighting to get know the real you – willingly putting yourself at risk

24:20 – Flow state for fighters is where it’s at!  

27:30 – Don on using flow to accidentally KO an opponent 

31:10 –  Using your own fight experience to empathise with your fighters

33:38 – The differences a fighter should expect when stepping up to fight on events like the One Championship 

37:37 – Bryan shares what makes a champion?

39:40 – Having the right amount of “selfish” as a fighter  

42:44 – The hidden energy demands that can sabotage a fighter

48:10 – General adaptation syndrome and HRV 

52:03 – Balancing the fighter’s instinct just thrash themselves all the time 

55:45 – Do you need to replicate the Thai training/lifestyle outside of Thailand?

01:00:06 – Fighter’s cultural taboo

01:02:44 – The challenge of finding domestic fighting opportunities for high level female fighters in the US

01:05:17 – Balancing the business side of the gym, with the fighting side, and family life!

01:08:31 – Evolving from cookie cutter training approach to an individualised one

01:12:30 – Recognising you’re not always ready to learn something yet 

01:17:14 – Bryan’s advice to achieve whatever you set out to do

Don Heatrick · Muay Thai Performance Coach

Don Heatrick

Founder of Heatrick Muay Thai Performance

Don Heatrick is a Level 4 Strength & Conditioning Coach and former pro Muay Thai fighter who helps practitioners turn limited training time into real Muay Thai performance gains.

With 25 years of Muay Thai coaching experience and an engineering background, he creates systematic, science-backed Muay Thai performance programs that cut through the confusion and deliver real progress without burnout. Learn more about Don’s approach →

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